::My Observation following the academic standards of debate on the Mccaine and Obama Presidential Debate::

Ive Watched the Presidential Debate of both Presidential Debates on Youtube which posted from CNN news. The Debate Lasted for about one hour and thirty six minutes. with the primary resolution on where does each of the presidentiables stand on the financial recovery plan. both of them stated all their fundamental principles and different approach and platformas from their views of the next America. They talked primarily about diseases of corruption of the last administration also with the excesses and abuse of the taxpayer's money,

since America right now is experiencing a recession period. The Debate was also basically made for the people of America to know what and in how credible the presidentiables can stand on their propositions basing on the present situation of U.S. Focusing more on the Normal American Life and gauging the MidDLE -cLASS aMERICAN as a measure to determine the standard way of living.

Following the Standards of Argumentation, The Presidential Debate of both Us Presidentiables exhibited most of the basic principles of argumentation basing on the premise that on who could give a clear assurance and transparency as to the competence that both candidates could give and bring recovery to america focusing on the economic aspect and military strength.

Both, I could say have good propositions as to their stand on setting fair taxes and equity as to the security of each people and definition of rich, poor, and medium class.

at the middle of the debate, as both have presented their propositions on employment and tax regulation. each presidentiables refuted each other's governmental scheme as to the perspective of an individual elector. Realistic in any sense, the fun part starts when both stated all the facts and how they struggled to prove their arguments are practicable enough to every living american. and destroy the other side as to completely negating the probability of effectiveness with regard to the budget and for the demands of future years as to the use of energy and stating on an action that needs to be done also highlighting health insurance and educational competence.

The debate more or less is not academic in nature as the primarily rules of debate where not properly followed, it was more of an informal debate and argumentation. Which stresses to make sure that every average person can understand with the purpose to voice out the reality and how necessary could it be to be able to choose the right president.

Views From different U.S Magazine Posts....

The Washington Post’s Dan Balz says McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign and seek to postpone Friday’s debate “may be among the biggest of his political life. The Republican presidential nominee is hoping that his abrupt decision … will be seen as the kind of country-first, bipartisan leadership he believes Americans want. What he risks, if things don't go as he hopes, is a judgment by voters that his move was a reckless act by an impetuous and struggling politician that hardened partisan lines in Washington at just the wrong moment and complicated efforts to deal with the biggest financial crisis in more than half a century.”

-The New York Times writes that McCain’s “decision seeking to postpone the first debate was yet another unpredictable, daring step taken by his campaign over the last month: its selection of Gov. Sarah Palin as a vice-presidential candidate shook up the race in late August, and days later the campaign stripped down the first day of the Republican National Convention because of the threat of Hurricane Gustav. In the midst of the confusion, officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates said that they were moving forward with the debate and that talks with the McCain campaign throughout the day had not persuaded them on Mr. McCain’s position. ‘We believe the public will be well served by having all of the debates go forward as scheduled,’ the commission said.”

-The Boston Globe calls McCain's move in asking for the debate to be delayed "a high-wire political gambit." "McCain's move was another extraordinary twist in a race full of extraordinary twists. It reflects not only the deep concerns of Republican and Democratic leaders about the grave state of the economy, but also the shifting dynamics in a presidential contest that polls suggest has swung in Obama's favor. Voters' focus on the Wall Street crisis and the economy -- long an advantage for Obama -- has helped give him an edge this week nationally and in key battleground states."

-The Los Angeles Times: "McCain's decision to up the ante was an audacious gambit to show leadership in a time of crisis. It drew the same kind of attention McCain received when he picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate and, earlier, when he retooled himself as an ally of oil drilling as gas prices soared." The LA Times also offers a timeline of the Obama/McCain phone tag. When Obama called his opponent at 8:30 am yesterday, "McCain was meeting with economic advisors, including former EBay Chief Executive Meg Whitman and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Obama left a message with his phone number. Later in the morning, Obama spent several hours in debate preparation at his hotel in Clearwater -- keeping a phone with him in case his opponent called. At 2:30 p.m., as Obama's motorcade left a rally near Clearwater, McCain returned the call, and the two spoke for five minutes (according to Obama aides) or 10 minutes (according to McCain aides)."
Per Politico, “A McCain aide [said] that the campaign is proposing to the Presidential Debate Commission and the Obama camp that if there's no bailout deal by Friday, the first presidential debate should take the place of the vice presidential debate, currently scheduled for October 2 in St. Louis. Under this scenario, the vice presidential debate would be rescheduled for a date yet to be determined, and take place in Oxford, Miss., where the first presidential debate is currently slated to be held.”

-The Boston Globe's editorial board calls it a "stunt." "[A]ltering the debate schedule would hardly serve voters. If anything, debates are most valuable at times of national crisis, because voters need to hear candidates highlight their policy differences… And McCain's initial response to the mess -- his odd claim that the fundamentals of the economy are strong -- made him look out of touch. But if he now thinks the problem can be tidied up during a short break from the campaign trail, he needs some new economic advisers. McCain has already brought discredit upon his campaign by shielding running mate Sarah Palin from hostile questions. This impulsive new stunt makes him appear unsteady and underprepared, too. America can work through a financial crisis and handle a campaign at the same time. In politics as on Broadway, the show must go on."

-The New York Daily News on McCain's move: "Bold… or Bonkers?"
A new LA Times/Bloomberg poll shows Obama ahead of McCain 49%-45% nationally among likely voters. That advantage shrinks to 46-44 among registered voters, giving the Illinois senator a lead comparable to the paper's last poll in August. The economy looms large, with voters preferring Obama on economic issues by a rate of 46% to 32%. He also has a 15-point advantage for voters evaluating his ability to handle rising gas prices, and a 30-point lead on healthcare. But McCain has gained major ground among independents, swinging from an 11-point deficit among the group in August to a 15-point lead in the latest poll.
MoveOn has a new TV ad hitting McCain on the economy.

:Does the debate of mccaine and obama meet the academic standards for arguments? Why or why not?:

Obama quotes
"I do think there is constructive work being done." - Obama's response when asked whether he intends to vote for a rescue plan taking shape in Congress.
"We did not set up a 21st century regulatory framework to deal with these problems. And that in part has to do with an economic philosophy that says that regulation is always bad." - Obama on the financial crisis.
"You said we would be greeted as liberators, and you were wrong." - Obama on McCain's support for the war in Iraq.
"This notion that by not talking to people we are punishing them - it doesn't work." - Obama on the need to broaden diplomatic efforts.
McCain quotes
"I hope so." - McCain's response when asked whether he intends to vote for a rescue plan taking shape in Congress.
"Sen. Obama has the most liberal voting record in the United States Senate. It's hard to reach across the aisle when you're that far to the left." - McCain contrasting his record of bipartisanship with Obama's.
"So let me get this right, we sit down with Ahmadinejad and he says, 'We're going to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth' and we say, 'No you're not.' Oh please." - McCain on Obama's willingness to negotiate with Iran.
"I have opposed the president on spending, on climate change, on torture of prisoners, on Guantanamo Bay ... on the way that the Iraq war was conducted." - McCain on his independence from President Bush.
E-mail Carla Marinucci at cmarinucci@sfchronicle.com.
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::ARgUMEnTATIOn::

Argumentation based from what i have read so far, is any Oral or Written form of communication based on premises, in this type of communication what is to be established is that your line of reasoning and thinking must be coherently logical and factual as to give weight and prevalence over the opposition's line of thought to be able to come into an end or conclusion.Argumentation can be used in all aspects in Life, and preferably in the study of Law wherein Argumentation is used in the actual practice of the Profession itself. Premises as a basis is grounded on the Universal Knowledge most dominantly social knowledge and political in nature as it should engender the public's interest. Thus, Argumentation should be a form of Art that could catch the ears and the eyes of the public.Argumentation as used in the Law profession is a skill yet to be polished or should be polisheed to be able to establish a strong case once a counsel or an attorney presents their argument in court. The Validity of the evidences are not sufficient enough to establish Logical Argument to help the judge come up with a decision on your favor.Argumentation as used by Law Students, in our young minds, helps improve our critical thinking, reasoned decision-making, research strategies, advocacy skills, presentation of constructive arguments, and refutation of the opponents' argument. as we are trained to become a follower not a mediocre. Thus, we have the drive to research and and explore issues relevant to our own beleifs and reasoning of the arguments presented. Argumentation requires presence and active participation and one way to start it is to actively participate in class discussions as a training ground. Argumentation is not only limited in refuting the oponnents but is also another way or the best way to gain knowledge as how the topic works and is reflected in reality. Nevertheless did we know that a new leader is found and new formulas are created while listening and carefully thinking and watching an argument.